back then. I remember the day we lost a crew in Cambodia. Fritz came in with the rest of his nape and sent a SAM across the tree line like a horizontal Roman candle. Btw, Uncle Walter was an anti-American, extreme lefty. It was the determination of President Richard M. Nixon to mount Operation Linebacker II, sending B-52s to attack the capital city of Hanoi and the port city of Haiphong, forcing the communists back to the peace conference in Paris that resulted in the end of the Vietnam War and the release of the prisoners-of-war. How many f4 were shot down? 3 Enclosures included: COMUSMACV MSG DTD 050023Z and Evaluations. It was less than a minute before I would be on the ground. Cheers! How far did he go on in the Air Force? Joe- God Bless you & Scotty and all others that served like ya`ll ! I confirmed this by dialing in Bravos coordinates and the needle pointed straight ahead. If I could ever slow down I might have time to write that book. God Bless America; God Bless the USAF; God Bless the Pilots and God Bless the POWs! Secondly, everybody else all the other strike flights, 15 of them, one after the other were calling, Outbound for weather meaning the target area was socked in and it would be just plain stupid to drop into the clouds where it would be hard to locate the target and easy to get nailed by a SAM (Surface-to-Air Missile). Was he making a record that his stupid wingman was messing up the mission? Ronald Fogleman was shot down in the I Corps area 200 miles (320 km) north of Bien Hoa while flying aircraft 56-3245. When all the politics are done when hostilities have ceased those who represented their country should be honoured. Good or bad we all contributed and finally got the job done.May all our brothers and sisters that made the ultimate sacrifice, rest in peace. Vietnam will eventually strive throughout S.E. By 1973, when we were released, theyd given us enough to eat so that I was back up to 155. An Air Force pilot and air commando who was shot down in 1970 during the Vietnam War will be buried at the Air Force Academy. How about that for a cool presence of mind? YGBSM!. May God continue to bless you. You also draw a conclusion that isnt at all clear-cut, which is why no one else has commented on it. This farmer pilot is Nguyn Vn By who died on Sept. 21, 2019 at the age of 83. The pilot Lieutenant J. M. Krommenhoek is Missing in Action. I think of you often and was looking forward to seeing you again. French-Indo China had been an imperialist hot bed for years, not to mention part of the communist domino effect after WW 2 that everyone was paranoid about. Approaching what should have been Point Alfa on our planned route, I noticed the nav pointer was off to the left when it should have been dead center straight up. The NVA never admitted to capturing them! You softy, dont deserve the freedom which we veterans fought and died for! Then came the shock. Joe, Every Friday Im privileged to have lunch with a WWII veteran who flew virtually every airplane in the arsenal of the time. So, with that, you have to question the command and leadership, not the foot soldier. Outwardly grateful to Jesus Christ above all and to our United States military service members is the way of life I choose to live and pass on to my children. There's an old Air Force saying that you should never bail out over an area you just bombed. 1st Lieutenant Scotty Wilson, the best stick in [the squadron].. Enjoyed your recollections Joe C. I was an Army Helicopter Crew Chief/Mechanic at Camp Eagle near Hue, Phu Bai then Danang MM Airfield, RVN 71-72. Don Ward, came up to me and said words that someone in operations never, ever hears from anybody in maintenance. Lt Cmdr Frederick P Crosby's plane crashed in a pond during the Vietnam War in 1965 (inset). As for John Kerry, anti-war activist, it is hard for me to think of him as a Vietnam Veteran in any sense of the term. He didnt shoot at anyone. I would not change a thing; glad I was able to serve. Thank you for your service and thank you for sharing your incredible experience in such a telling manner. Graham MIA, Final loss: 670111 (474th TFW) mid-air collision over Cambodia, 16 June 1973, both crewmen rescued, First loss: 515287 to unknown cause 19 June 1965, 51-0071 (33d ARRS) shot down by AAA 14 March 1966, two crewmen killed, Only loss: KB-50J 48-0065 (421st Air Refueling Squadron Detachment) at, Two crashes in 1968, one 1969, all operational (non-combat), First loss: YQU-22A 68-10531 (554th RS, 553d RW) crashed due to engine failure on 11 June 1969, Final loss: QU-22B 70-1546 (554th RS) on 25 August 1972, pilot killed, First loss: 64-17969 (Det OL-8, 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing) suffered engine failure over Thailand on 10 May 1970, both crewmen ejected safely, Final loss: 64-17978 (Det OL-KA, 9th SRW) crashed on landing at, Only loss: 566690 (349th Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron 100th SRW) which crashed on 8 October 1966 near Bien Hoa, SVN, Maj. Leo J Stewart ejected and was rescued. You have no skin in the game of life and freedom, do you! Mills words to heart whenever necessary. Well written as you brought each of us along with you in the cockpit as your descriptives of that entire mission were intense. Any man can do no more for his country than agree to place himself in harms way. Flight lead replied, Dogwood 2, you have the lead. So that it is crystal clear to the reader, this means that two 1stLieutenants were leading a flight of Phantoms to a JCS target on the outskirts of Hanoi referred to as Bullseye by those of us who flew over the north. We held a mass intelligence briefing at wing HQ. As my turn got closer and closer, I was still mentally tongue-tied. His wingman was Paul Reyes. Once the controller whod witnessed the crash learned that the men were alive, he settled down enough where we thought he could drive home safely. After all that I suffered dont you dare tell me I had no business being there! Knowing you were handled so badly by your bosses has to be a tough thing to take. Fortunately, my background as a briefer and operations duty officer enabled me to tell my accusers that the base they spoke of was still 250 miles from Chu Lai, and the runway was not suitable for F4s. This fighter aircraft, flown by various pilots, was credited for 14 kills during the Vietnam War. He is presently a retired airline pilot who originally flew for The Flying Tiger Line in DC-8s and 747s and then MD-11s for FedEx. No need to bring up the sorties flown with 1/2 ordnance loads so the (Squadron, Group, Wing) would look good on paper. The flight call sign was Dogwood and we were number 2. God Bless America and her brave warriors! When naval aviator Porter Halyburton deployed for Vietnam, he left behind his young wife and five-day-old daughter, Dabney. A well? I just received some additional email comments on my article and browsed through the older ones and saw yours. Both Aircrew members ejected and were rescued; 155394 was shot down on 29 October 1971. Those bumps on the walls, in retrospect, were a poor mans acoustic treatment for trying to muffle the screams of Americans being tortured there. I then drew my .38 caliber service revolver, opened the cylinder, emptied all the ammunition and threw it away. November 22, 1966, was selected as the day a massive air strike would be launched against the first of two high-priority targets in North Vietnam (NVN). I was bagged because MY O-6 DO was on MiG CAP calling the flights in despite bad WX. There are plenty of other places to rant and vent. Scotty gave the Phantom back to me and then it was my turn. Spent the day with Tom and Scottys brother Mark. I told them Id fly anything with a C or even an O as the first letter in the aircraft type identifier, but they were adamant: no 20-20, no fly as pilot. At the very least, he had just been knocked out. Million-dollar wound some would call it through the knee, with the bones barely nicked. I admit now that, with the forebodings Id had earlier, I seriously thought about pulling the aerial refueling receptacle circuit breaker so it would not open, causing us to have to abort. As to the hollow, mean-spirited comment immediately preceding, the Bible admonishes that one not answer a fool according to his folly. So I wont. Thank you again for your personal sacrifice and service to our country Sir. Just a wild guess but you just enjoy your freedoms while you let others do the fighting and take the risks. Names. [9][10]:268. Asia [http://www.dpaa.mil/Resources/Fact-Sheets/Article-View/Article/569613/progress-in-vietnam/]. The four-foot stabilizing chute was severed, my lap belt was opened and the butt snapper straps straightened, booting me out of the seat while simultaneously pulling the ripcord that would deploy my parachute. There were pictures in the Tulsa World of the damage one of the ejection seats did to a womans newly-remodeled bathroom. What was the name of the plane that was shot down in Vietnam? Final loss: EC-47Q 43-48636 (361st Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron, 56th SOW) shot down in Laos on the night of 04/5 45 February 1973, killing all 8 crewmen. How did the Vietnam shot down the B-52? He is someone that I have always respected and admired. At 10,000 ft, the automatic man-seat separation features operated exactly as advertised. On July 24, 1965, an SA-2 shot down an Air Force F-4C, the first of 110 USAF aircraft lost to SAMs in Southeast Asia. Thanks for your service, Sir. It was noon. Dulles International Needs a name change. LTJG Hartman & LT Clinton B. . Joes epilogue sums it all up. By this time I was at 1,500 ft. As a 110 F4 combat mission Vet, Id like to know. 1972: U.S. claimed 51 MiG-21s destroyed; North Vietnam claimed 53 US aircraft shot down by MiG-21s, including two B-52 Stratofortress bombers. By my count I was about the 335thPOW to walk up onto the stage to shake hands with the President. Sharing your story forward. Contact, followed by, Youre taking fuel, announced the boomer. By the time of the American involvement in Southeast Asia communism, by moderate estimates, around the globe had murdered 110 million people! I know exactly how you feel about combat decisions driven by hubris. I dont know if they ever found the horse. I lost all feeling in my arms very rapidly. When Maj. "Jump" Myers' plane crashed in flames, there was no chance of rescue - yet Bernie Fisher defied the odds and brought him out alive. God bless you all. Cmon man, show some class! Im an alumnus of the 480th TFS myself ( USAFE, 78-80) and wish you all the best . Lost contact with you shortly after you were so kind to make comments at my FedEx retirement party. Day after day intel would ask us to listen up for Buick 4, or Chevy 4, or whoever Number 4 who had been shot down while lead worked on getting his Mig. Both Aircrew members were Killed In-Action, Last VAL-4 loss: 155461 crashed on 9 February 1972. There was a terrifyingly loud and long explosion followed by staccato metal-to-metal sounds, probably of the J-79 turbine and compressor blades departing for parts unknown. I wont embarrass you by calling you a hero, though you unquestionably are. I reached bingo, bingo minus 5, minus 10, minus 15, and reported to lead each time. I never came face-to-face with either asshole but I emailed the flight lead recently and told him off that he was incompetent, got Scotty Wilson killed, cost the USAF an F-4, caused my Fathers premature death and was responsible for unimaginable hardships for Scottys widow and daughter not to mention my 6+ years in prison. I always get chills reading these stories. Yeh, the F-4s wings dont come off even from a SAM induced Spin. . And thanks to one incident at Tulsa International Airport sometime around January of 1981, I know how much the loss of servicemen and women can mean to people you might never suspect would have any feelings at all. His unit was flying in support of South Vietnamese troops fighting in Laos. R. Cole rescued, Final loss: 57-0922 (435th TFS, 8th TFW) operational loss due to engine failure on 14 May 1967 in Thailand, pilot name unknown, survived, First loss: 624371 (36th TFS, 6441st TFW) written off from battle damage over Laos 14 August 1964, at Korat, Thailand, Final loss: 610153 (44th TFS, 355th TFW) shot down Laos 23 September 1970, pilot Capt. Even at max takeoff weight, Scotty had to be careful not to exceed the landing gear limit airspeed of 250 knots with both afterburners cooking. We actually believed that the letters U.S. would frighten away any adversary who realized that we were in the confrontation. Thank you for your sentiments. First loss: operational (non-combat), F-4C 64-0674 (45TH TFS, 15th TFW) which ran out of fuel after strike in SVN on 9 June 1965; first combat loss F-4C 64-0685 (45th TFS, 15th TFW) shot down Ta Chan, NW NVN on 20 June 1965. All this took no more than one second. North Vietnam, pre-1975: Killing of Two American Pilots Shot Down Over North Vietnam IIR Casualty files | William A. Ott. I wanted to wipe the blood away but my hands were tied behind my back. That may be the biggest benefit from Viet Nam, a conflict which many would say yielded very few benefits, as you suggest. I was too young for Nam, but spent 20 years in the Navy under the water. A C-47 was the very first USAF aircraft lost in the SEA conflict, C-47B 44-76330 (315th Air Division) on TDY at. P.39, Toperczer, Istvan. They all worked too. To you gentlemen; Brett, Tim, Wade, Gordon, Cliff, Neil, Andy and Jerry who responded to the reprint of my 2017 article, Shot Down Over North Vietnam, I thank you for your kind remarks and expressions of patriotism. Phew! On Oct. 25, 1967, I strapped into my F-105 Thunderchief fighter-bomber and took to the sky on my 33rd combat mission to strike a bridge in the middle of Hanoi, North Vietnam. Thank you for your service! The cockpit pressure vessel was intact; incredibly, it had not been penetrated despite a direct hit by a Soviet SA-2 missile traveling at over Mach 2 with a 400 lb., high-explosive warhead! Reeder is being held behind the middle window. He didnt. Well b fearn, you have a right to make your comment and your opinion, but I do not believe this is the time or place. Crecca/Wilson International would be my recommendation in honor of a deceased F4 pilot and a 6 year POW since the F4 was the most numerous of Vietnam War aircraft casualties. A lifelong non-smoker who was on a never-ending mission to convince people not to smoke, my father did eventually tell me of a scared Marine, who, early during the battle for Iwo Jima, asked my father to sit with him in a shallow bomb crater and smoke a cigarette. Spooky came in after that and made a few passes. I never made it back . Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing this. 64 to 69. Came upon this remarkable story after seeing it linked to another by a good guy who once gave me dual instruction in sailplanes. While I never got above the Cessna 180 stage of flying, I hold you and your fellow pilots in the highest esteem. I hope the AFJ editor will exercise more discretion in the future. These were probably the local militia. Its a tough story to take. You guys were working around the clock to keep the pressure on HCM. Joe many of the IPs in the 4435th remember you from your smooth ride getting back in the Phantom. If your anti-Vietnam War feelings are still that strong, I dare you to walk up to a highly-decorated Vietnam combat veteran, preferably a Marine or Soldier and vent your anti-war feelings to him, face-to-face! We would have to fight if not listened to. Overcome with his Ivy League false sense of academic Superiority, he stupidly turned them down, not even a crucial, critical, disastrous war saving meeting. Sadly the other pilot and crew chief and door gunner did not make it. I was escorted a few hundred feet to one of the village hooches Id seen from above. Ha! Your story sheds much light on what his experiences must have been like. Lonely feeling for a pilot over enemy territory. My father was lost in 64-0771 out of Cam Rahn 9/3/66. Got this forwarded in late 2017. Following the release of all the POWs we met President Nixon at the State Department in May, 1973. All of us pilots felt lost. This is aviation commentary. I taught math, physics, automotive theory and practice, and classical music in the Hanoi Hilton. It is sad that we lost so much blood and treasure in that endeavor. Some were grabbing and pulling at my anti-g suit, flight suit and boots. For the briefest moment I contemplated that a right 60 degree turn would take me via the shortest route out of NVN. Like the Flat-Earthers who still dont believe we landed on the Moon. Thank you Sir for your service. It was great to learn about your time before FTL/FDX. 31 DEC 71. And I mourn their deaths. I would spend the next six years and three months in five different prison camps around the city and countryside in North Vietnam; the farthest very near to the Chinese border. I enjoyed your write up though I could see you squirming in your seat as it was unfolding. You certainly are my Hero! The time was 1151. He was the last fighter pilot to become an ace in a day, shooting down five Indian Hawker . As I approached the left wing in my walk around, I noticed a large patch, roughly 30 by 8 riveted just inboard of the left wing-fold. Soviet General Fesenko, the main Soviet adviser to the North Vietnamese Air Force in 1972, recorded 34 MiG-21s destroyed in 1972. While the Vietnamese and Chinese have a long history of ethnic combat, the Chinese were happy to limit both Russian and American military influence in SE Asia, by replacing every bullet fired by North Vietnam. This content was created by a Daily Kos Community member. My brother got spit on when he landed in Atlanta on his way home. me 500s. ), Ways to get involved in the 2022 Election. I knew none of this before he died. Youre the best and always will be with me when I go flying. First loss: 1964, final loss: 1967. Glad you made it home safe after 6 years in the north. Sorry you couldnt be there. Joe, thanks for sharing and honoring Scotty. It was another scene of temporal distortion. Thanks for the story, Joe. They were all well received. Actually, it being a slow weekend day, I was on a break and eating breakfast with a few other controllers at a restaurant not far from the airport when Perky01 or 02 reported that they were going to have to bail out. We were to be a flight of four F-4C Phantoms. I did enjoy reading this and I am grateful for men like you. After 52 years, the remains of Air Force pilot Col. Roy Knight Jr., who was shot down in 1967 during the Vietnam War, have finally come home. The claimed flying aces of the Vietnam War, pilots who shot down five or more enemy aircraft, include 19 North Vietnamese pilots (six MiG-17 and 13 MiG-21 pilots),[1]:228 and five Americans. 1LT ALDRICH ROBERT HENRY BNR 12/27/1971154013 HMM-165 WO1 ALEXANDER BARRY KENNETH KIA 09/22/196968-513/68-23 71 AHC CPT ALEXANDER DAVID LEE KIA 02/06/197170-20 67-18493178 ASHC Was the F 14 used in Vietnam? 9 of the losses were parked aircraft struck by rockets. Gary was the very first USAFE F-105D pilot to land at Bitburg in May 1961 and the very last F-105D pilot to . At this point, because of the unexpected turn, our formation was too bunched up; we were too close to each other to be able to provide mutual look-out support. Compare these massive figures to the six million Jewish folks who perished in the WWII Holocaust. Source for F-4 losses is Phantom with U.S. Marine Corps (Joe Baugher), others are unsourced, Production of a total of 380 Mohawks ended in December 1970. He did this all without missing a beat. It was you who were suffering in the oppressive heat & humidity. Presidio Press. After that we had our individual flight briefings. If you are wondering how this is possible, I will reveal at the outset that it is not possible. Hi, Joe. I hope that this article and your word of mouth/teachings help other people stand up against stupidity and question the orders of those place in authority. Notes. Thank you for the heads-up on the article. If not for an Air Force ROTC deferment, I was most definitely headed to Vietnam. Elizabeth Hartsook, Stuart Slade. We should have learned from the last two years of the Korean War that China would not be deterred from conventional warfare by enormous pounding of both front-line forces and non-stop interdiction. Jan 12, 06:12 PM. One of our F-4s was not delivered by maintenance. We did not know if anyone survived! I was a bit young to be drafted for Vietnam but as a flying geek and guy who likes to learn about military history, Ive had conversations with many people involved in that conflict, including soldiers, marines, airmen and my brother, a draftee who walked point in the US Army in Vietnam. Glad you made it back. Before I could muse over any more unhappy endings, I was dropped onto the floor. Several of our birds went to Nam. Had three square meals a day. God Bless You for your service. 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